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Medieval messer by sgainbrachta Medieval messer by sgainbrachta
A late medieval/early renaissance Germanic "peasant messer". 18" overall, 6" in the handle. Forged nagler, differentially heat-treated blade, ground from 1080 steel. Wood is rifle stock cast-off, and is nicely figured English Walnut.
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Arcuballistarius Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2013
I do not like messers, but it is beautiful! Have you thought that create an falchiont?
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sgainbrachta Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2013
I have, my messer is somewhere in between the messer and falchion, really. The biggest difference seems to be a messer was a slicing, almost knife-like blade, while the falchion is somewhat heavier, for cutting against light armor.

Once I can get some better tempering done, I'll make both! And a lot of steel on steel weapons, too- for competitions and such.
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Arcuballistarius Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2013
Messer is a very tricky weapon ([link]), while the falchion is simple and effective. Whether you are an ax and a knife common child
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sgainbrachta Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2013
I do not think that either was simpler to use, really- just that WHERE they were used was different. A messer was used between farmers and as a dueling weapon, while the falchion is a weapon of war. A messer generally had a much thinner blade, and a finer edge than a falchion- and so would get dulled very quickly, or even break if it hit the heavy armor in use in a battle. A falchion- while a similar weapon, was used to remove limbs and crack helms- so had a much thicker blade. A couple of museum notes make it pretty clear- a messer, about 1 m in the blade weighs about 1 kilo- while the much shorter English falchion weighs about 1.4 kilos- and is only about 75 cm or so! I have fought messer for a long time- and though there re differences in the weights- you can- and usually should use them in a similar way. The little tricks with the point make for an interesting fight!
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Arcuballistarius Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2013
I know it will be new! Until now fought bastard sword, but this year I want to learn new things!
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sgainbrachta Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013
Messer fighting is all about the dirty tricks. I highly recommend it!
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Arcuballistarius Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013
Tomorrow arrives with my new weapon: a falchion. I started getting to know the techniques Messer.
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sgainbrachta Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013
Sweet! post some pics and data- weight, length overall, of the blade, etc~
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bladeslinger Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2012
What are the rest of the blade dimensions, if you dont mind my asking? Beautiful piece!
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sgainbrachta Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2012
This one is a prototype- so it's a bit thin. It was made from 1/8" stock, and has distal taper, so get pretty thin at the tip, Width is a hair over 1" by the nagler (nail-thingy) with the continuous taper you see. Things to change on the prodyction piece(s) are to go with 3/16 stock, widen the blade to about 1 1/4" at the base, appropriate taper, get a really good distal taper, and use spring-steel on the nagler, too.
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